From: Dermott
Message:
Steve M
> Dermott
> > Christmas is coming yadda yadda yadda, 'want to get a gift for Techie
> > friend, need advice from UK-Geek;
> >
> > What portable MP3 player is the best.?
>
> this should go down in the FAQ next to the vinyl vs CD question ting ;-)
> horses for courses mate, work out what you/friend really wants it for
> (other than playing MP3's) and have a look at what the iRiver and Rio as
> well as the iPods have to offer that matches it closely
>
> > Afraid to get an iPod due to that whole "legally held MP3" thing that
> > iPods insist on (OK, I worded that wrong but they are cetainly not as
> > forgiving as other machines in terms of uploading/downloading/recording etc.)
>
> er, not sure what you mean here! they only play MP3's (and raw AIFF or
> Apple Lossless), not WMA files if thats what you mean. but its not like
> every MP3 *HAS* to be a DRM encoded AAC file (as the files downloaded
> from iTunes are). there are plenty of programmes around that enable you
> to get MP3's off the iPod as well (on different computers for instance),
> iTunes doesnt ordinarily allow that
Ah Ha! - Didn't know about the other s/w. I was of the opinion that you
were stuck with one Master PC and the MP3s stored ONLY on that machine -
thanks Steve.
> > What about the iRiver machine? Or The Philips one which has Line
> > in/Digital / voice memo recording capabilities?
>
> all good, not sure about the phillips one but a few have that function
> now. good if you actually need it, another port to go wrong if you don't...
>
> > What are people's personal recommendations?
>
> I'd stick with the iPod personally, unless you really want an FM radio
> on the same player. battery life isn't an issue with the new iPods, the
> comparitively higher price could be
> laters,
> steve
iPoD
iRiver
iAudio M3
Methinks a pattern is emerging
Many thanks to all who contributed to this thread, especially the
Clarksons at the back.
> "It's not a car, it's Concorde-cappacino-fanny-magnet!"
Regards,
Dermott

I have a 60GB Nomad Zen Extra which is pretty cool. You can get them from Amazon.co.uk or if you've got more time get it from abroad.
Cheaper than the Ipod and easier to move files to and from the computer (not sure whether you can move files from and Ipod TO a computer).
I heard Archos have some good shit. Not sure but I think they have one which you can actually edit track names and stuff actually on the player.
check out nomadness.net
The best would be to get one which can record. Nomad used to do a CD shaped one at 40gb which could record. proper good!
Tom