The music angle
As no-one else has started a thread yet...
Been a very strange past few days. Saturday night watching the events unfolding on TV and then looking out the bedroom window to see the smoke plumes picked out by the police helicopter's searchlight in the distance over Tottenham. Yesterday walking up Walthamstow High St, packed out with police while glaziers patched up jewellers, banks and a mobile phone shop where the overnight cleaners came under attack. Then the amazing scenes from Hackney in the evening, with the news copters zooming in live on people attacking buses. All with a constant backchannel from Twitter, following the reports and wild rumours as different places kicked off and The Guardian's Paul Lewis jumping across town in response to electronic chatter like a real-life Max Headroom. Lately it seems like the future from my youth has actually arrived.
I'll leave the political analysis to those who can do it better than me.
Oh, and the music angle - a whole bunch of independent music and film companies hit by the burning down of the Sony warehouse with all their stock: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/09/independent-record-labels-stock-london-riots.
Hope you're all okay.
Stephen H <(Address removed)> said:
As no-one else has started a thread yet...
Been a very strange past few days. Saturday night watching the events unfolding on TV and then looking out the bedroom window to see the smoke plumes picked out by the police helicopter's searchlight in the distance over Tottenham. Yesterday walking up Walthamstow High St, packed out with police while glaziers patched up jewellers, banks and a mobile phone shop where the overnight cleaners came under attack. Then the amazing scenes from Hackney in the evening, with the news copters zooming in live on people attacking buses. All with a constant backchannel from Twitter, following the reports and wild rumours as different places kicked off and The Guardian's Paul Lewis jumping across town in response to electronic chatter like a real-life Max Headroom. Lately it seems like the future from my youth has actually arrived.
I'll leave the political analysis to those who can do it better than me.
Oh, and the music angle - a whole bunch of independent music and film companies hit by the burning down of the Sony warehouse with all their stock: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/09/independent-record-labels-stock-london-riots.
Hope you're all okay.
the liberal crypto fascist aftermath is making me sick.
<well.. frankly.... the next time I'm in ealing I'm going to visit that rancid woman who was interviewed on bbc and called the whole of london youth "feral rats".... on live tv... and give her a piece of my mind make no mistake.. i think she was the owner of an organic cup cake shop .... with branches in london fields and clapham junction>
simon green <(Address removed)> said:
the liberal crypto fascist aftermath is making me sick.
<well.. frankly.... the next time I'm in ealing I'm going to visit that rancid woman who was interviewed on bbc and called the whole of london youth "feral rats".... on live tv... and give her a piece of my mind make no mistake.. i think she was the owner of an organic cup cake shop .... with branches in london fields and clapham junction>
I have found that the media reaction, with its lurch into espousing right-wing authoritarianism is far more disturbing than the extreme consumerism we all witnessed over the past 5 days.
The BBC has been heavily promoting the e-petition that says 'take away benefits from rioters' . Other mainstream media is reporting that councils should evict tenants convicted of looting.
Doesn't anyone even think through the consequences of these knee-jerk reactions? Because if these idle notions of vengeance are ever carried through - the result would make what we've seen recently in our cities recently seem relatively tame.
The hypocrisy of those calling for looters to be shot on sight, and there are plenty with this view, is astonishing. Attempting to solve problems by taking a gun to them is exactly the mentality of the gang member.
Our bankers in the City have been indulging in smash and grab raids as have our politicians in places like Iraq and Libya - what sort of role models do they think they are?
The police are paying for the lies they came out with regarding the murder of Jean-Charles de Menenzes and amongst others. A protest demanding answers was ignored and the beating of a young girl by the police in front of those seeking answers (the video of which has been removed from all mainstream media and not mentioned again) was the spark that lit this tinderbox. The police have either been tactically naive or deliberately provocative.
The most depressing thing about all of this is that it gives ammunition to those that seek increasing authoritarianism, right-wing hate groups, those who'd like to see a police state advanced and armchair fascists everywhere.
Stephen H <(Address removed)> said:
As no-one else has started a thread yet...
Been a very strange past few days.
Kev Sampson is spot on in his CiF piece yesterday
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/liverpool-riots-mob-mayhem
Lord Borthbury
Lord Borthbury <(Address removed)> said:
Stephen H <(Address removed)> said:
As no-one else has started a thread yet...
Been a very strange past few days.
Kev Sampson is spot on in his CiF piece yesterday
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/10/liverpool-riots-mob-mayhem
Lord Borthbury
Bat posted this on twitter:
s M i l e <(Address removed)> said:
I have found that the media reaction, with its lurch into espousing
right-wing authoritarianism is far more disturbing than the extreme
consumerism we all witnessed over the past 5 days.
It's certainly brought out the self-righteous goody-goody in a lot of people. I had no idea so many people were so fucking perfect in every way. I would consider therapy for my evil thoughts but I made the mistake of sitting up and watching 'One flew over the cuckoos nest' last night and it kinda put me off.
I would consider therapy for my evil thoughts but I made the
mistake of sitting up and watching 'One flew over the cuckoos
nest' last night and it kinda put me off.
... i watched that! .... amazing film.
nurse ratched IS therresa may.
Andy Tuna
Bat posted this on twitter:
TELEGRAPH JOURNALIST IN REASONABLE ARGUMENT SHOCKER.
I think I need to sit down.
Stephen H <(Address removed)> said:
As no-one else has started a thread yet...
Been a very strange past few days. Saturday night watching the events
unfolding on TV and then looking out the bedroom window to see the smoke
plumes picked out by the police helicopter's searchlight in the distance
over Tottenham. Yesterday walking up Walthamstow High St, packed out
with police while glaziers patched up jewellers, banks and a mobile
phone shop where the overnight cleaners came under attack. Then the
amazing scenes from Hackney in the evening, with the news copters
zooming in live on people attacking buses. All with a constant
backchannel from Twitter, following the reports and wild rumours as
different places kicked off and The Guardian's Paul Lewis jumping across
town in response to electronic chatter like a real-life Max Headroom.
Lately it seems like the future from my youth has actually arrived.I'll leave the political analysis to those who can do it better than me.
Oh, and the music angle - a whole bunch of independent music and film
companies hit by the burning down of the Sony warehouse with all their
stock: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/09/independent-record-labels-stock-london-riots.Hope you're all okay.
all the years on here i didnt know you were a fellow walthamstow dweller we might be neigbours
simon green <(Address removed)> said:
I would consider therapy for my evil thoughts but I made the
mistake of sitting up and watching 'One flew over the cuckoos
nest' last night and it kinda put me off.... i watched that! .... amazing film.
nurse ratched IS therresa may.
You find Theresa May attractive!?!?!?!
You find Theresa May attractive!?!?!?!
haven't really thought about it... to be fair. ... she's a right wing home secretary .. i just want to see her up against the wall.. begging for mercy.
Nice to see UK-D is still a honey pot for crusty-left ideological zealots, after all these years. Chrissakes, is it not about time to sell up all those dreary slowmo skunkhop CDs and stop chewing the leftist fat. I dunno: mow a pensioners lawn, plant some flowers, help out in yer local charity shop.... just turn off the vdu/triphop cd selection and stop loitering like some lingering fart from a late 90s right-on thread about some bloody ism or other.
rr.
Nice to see UK-D is still a honey pot for crusty-left ideological
zealots,
fuck off baxter.
ricky rhubarb <(Address removed)> said:
Nice to see UK-D is still a honey pot for crusty-left ideological zealots, after all these years. Chrissakes, is it not about time to sell up all those dreary slowmo skunkhop CDs and stop chewing the leftist fat. I dunno: mow a pensioners lawn, plant some flowers, help out in yer local charity shop.... just turn off the vdu/triphop cd selection and stop loitering like some lingering fart from a late 90s right-on thread about some bloody ism or other.
rr.
Why is it that than when people get old they tend to lurch to the right?
Why is it that than when people get old they tend to lurch to the right?
i don't agree, baxter has always been a liberal.
i don't agree, baxter has always been a liberal.
for the avoidance of doubt... by that ... i meant... baxter has always been a right winger. <ie: liberal>
simon x
simon green <(Address removed)> said:
Why is it that than when people get old they tend to lurch to the
right?
i don't agree, baxter has always been a liberal.
LOL. For someone I've not met or had any contact with for over a decade you do seem to know everything about me. All correct of course - I raise funds for neocon offshoots, am drafting an even more draconian version of the CJA, writhe on a mattress of Ayn Rand tomes etc.
My post was a deliberate troll on this dusty board - not targeted at anyone in particular, as this is a leftist stronghold after all. Being Portillos' spiritual descendent then, can I claim minority rights on here? My brogues are almost a form of ethnic wear.
As for Smiles question - it depends what you define as a lurch to the right. If as, personal admission, you recognized a lot of bs and simplified guff of your earlier younger self and no longer quote Marx or Zizjek to poor buggers, then that's probably a healthy personal adjustment.
My post was a deliberate troll on this dusty board
well yeah obviously .. was just giving your cry for attention a bit of a response :)
mirror mirror on the wall who is the finest troll of them all....
simon x
ricky rhubarb <(Address removed)> said:
Nice to see UK-D is still a honey pot for crusty-left ideological
zealots, after all these years. Chrissakes, is it not about time to sell
up all those dreary slowmo skunkhop CDs and stop chewing the leftist
fat. I dunno: mow a pensioners lawn, plant some flowers, help out in yer
local charity shop.... just turn off the vdu/triphop cd selection and
stop loitering like some lingering fart from a late 90s right-on thread
about some bloody ism or other.
Speak for yourself. Personally, I haven't even heard the phrase "trip hop" for at least 10 years, never mind listened to any Nightmares on Wax CDs.
